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Supraphysical Reality
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Russell E. Rierson
2005-01-03 04:09:20 UTC
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One ponders over the quantum mechanical origin of sensory qualia, for
example-- hearing, vision, sense of touch, ...etc. Since only the
discrete moment by moment frames of reality are imprinted on our
consciousness due to the fact that energy IS quantized, then indeed,
those imprints correspond to quantum jumps between quantum histories!
They become snapshots of reality forming a logical sequence FOR the
mind. Also, the indeterministic properties of the mesoscopic quantum
states between the intrinsic neural connections, seem to be way for a
quantum physical correlation to the sensory qualia, giving mind the
illusion of continuity. That is to say, the passive quantum jumps
change only the overall phase of subsystem's state, giving the illusion
of continuous correspondence to sensory experiences.

Of course there are those who, while yearning for an absolute material
world, put forth the putative argument that consciousness is merely an
emergent property of the brain's neural networks, that is to say the
"mind = computer brain". But in between the binding, conscious-state to
conscious-state transition sequence, is the indeterminate
non-computable lapse. Therefore the non-computability forms the the
basis of free will.

One of the most intractable problems of our time, is the "mind-body
problem", which involves an accounting for free will, or more
precisely, a limited form of "autonomy" in that physical existence is
governed by physical law. The mind-body problem also relates to
conscious experience, because the problem is created with the
assumption that the brain is comprised entirely of discrete
non-sentient things. Yet, the neurons within the brain must work as
fully integrated units in which the various parts can become a seamless
fusion of efficiency. The synchronicity and timing of the integration
necessitates the mind's very existence. Thus the integration is not
just a function of mental activity, but it also must encompass the
physiological, energetic, and psychological states.

The phenomenon of synchronicity becomes the evidence that the deepest
regions of the unconscious mind consist of indeterminate "psyche
structures" that transcend the distinction between psyche and matter
altogether. Indeterminate gaps between actualized moments provide the
most fundamental degrees of perceptual freedom. Perception is necessary
to bring about the transition from possible to actual, where the
fundamental nature of observation in quantum theory remains partially
enigmatic. The quintessential measurement problem is derived from the
fact that prior to a perception, or scientific "observation", the
quantum is described as being a nonlocal wave of probability
distributed throughout space-time; then, after an observation, only one
of the possible values becomes the actual reality.
Prigator
2005-01-03 08:32:52 UTC
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Post by Russell E. Rierson
One ponders over the quantum mechanical origin of sensory qualia, for
example-- hearing, vision, sense of touch, ...etc. Since only the
discrete moment by moment frames of reality are imprinted on our
consciousness due to the fact that energy IS quantized, then indeed,
those imprints correspond to
quantum jumps between quantum histories!
They become snapshots of reality forming a logical sequence FOR the
mind.
Thank you for the mention of reality. The universe is not, however, fashioned
for our delight, and it is not slavishly feeding the mind. The mind, in order
to survive, must track reality. Some of those old images had sharp teeth.
Post by Russell E. Rierson
Also, the indeterministic properties of the mesoscopic quantum
states between the intrinsic neural connections, seem to be way for a
quantum physical correlation to the sensory qualia, giving mind the
illusion of continuity. That is to say, the passive quantum jumps
change only the overall phase of subsystem's state, giving the illusion
of continuous correspondence to sensory experiences.
It is not an illusion. If the sane mind is successfully tracking all the
sensory data that comes in, it is in tune with reality. Again, that is
essential to survival. Man could not have evolved otherwise.
Post by Russell E. Rierson
But in between the binding, conscious-state to
conscious-state transition sequence, is the indeterminate
non-computable lapse. Therefore the non-computability forms the the
basis of free will.
The lapse, if there is one, is not what is non-computable. The mind cannot
possibly absorb and compute all the variables in the universe. There is simply
too much data input and too much data unknown or unnoticed. That is what gives
the appearance of free will, and there is your illusion. You have been looking
through the wrong end of the telescope.

Doug Chandler
Rushtown
2005-01-03 16:43:35 UTC
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I do not think a healthy mind is one which "tracks all the sensory
data" which comes in. That would make for an unhealthy mind.
A healthy mind filters the data and modifys the data so that a person
acts in such a way as to maximize his or her survival (including
fitting in with the society in which he lives).
A modern person who saw "omens" and "portents" would seem abnormal; and
a person from the 8th century who did not would also seem abnormal.
I do think that the case for the mind being a quantum computer is
strong. If physical matter can be configured to be a quantum computer
then it is likely that
evolution has taken that path. How else to explain the abilities of 3
lbs of tissue?

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